In this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors we banter a bit about some new TV shows, and then relay an unfortunate incident involving a cigar. We then dig into the issue of Qanon: what is it, why do its adherents think what they think, etc. After the break we discuss a recent article by David Brooks on the nuclear family and whether it was a bad idea after all. Biebers involve politicians’ tweets and paper towel dispensers.

In this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors we had the pleasure of chatting with Katherine Stewart, author of the recent book Power Worshipers: Inside the Dangerous Rise of Religious Nationalism. We discuss the rise of religious fundamentalism in this country, as well as attempt to get inside the heads of Christian Nationalists in order to see what makes them tick. We close with a debrief about the interview and with biebers involving foggy glasses and annoying patrons.