Drunk Ex-Pastors (general)

In DXP #277 we are again reminded of our “guilty pleasure” status for our evangelical listeners. We take a voicemail about whether churchgoers are aware of their pastors’ salaries, and then learn from another listener that we may be in significant legal peril. We talk about Kanye and that dead ISIS guy, and then are joined by Seth Taylor to discuss whether the demons that live inside of us are the kinds with horns and forked tongues, or are some other kind of Satanic underlings.  

Direct download: 2019_10_29_0277.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 10:00pm PST

DXP #276 begins with more woes about a certain online course, after which we wax semi-serious about our desire to be remembered after we die. We take calls about whether our president is actually mentally handicapped, whether the whole pronoun thing is a bigger deal than we realized, and whether God could have just created us already in heaven in order to skip all the hassle. We revisit the issue of rising tides, and then make another unannounced call to a random listener.

Direct download: 2019_10_22_0276.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 10:00pm PST

DXP #275 begins with a voicemail arguing that “America the Beautiful” actually has a point. We then revisit the topics of alien life and the nature of reality itself, bringing recent books and documentaries to bear on the discussion. We call a butt-dialer, and then turn the conversation to The Great Hack and the issue of digital data mining. We take a call about using Venmo to get more tips, and then listen to Ben Shapiro threaten to kill people. Biebers involve spelling and online courses.

Direct download: 2019_10_15_0275.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 6:20am PST

In this episode of DXP we hear some more valet woes and then listen to all the reasons why traveling through America is a big waste of time. We discuss a recent documentary about Robert Lazar and his claim to have reverse-engineered a flying saucer at Area 51, which leads to a conversation about science and so-called paranormal phenomena. We do our first-ever live interview with a lucky patron, and then share our biebers involving boarding planes and hyperlinks.

Direct download: 2019_10_08_0274.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 9:00pm PST

We begin episode #273 of DXP by recounting the events that led one of us to be whisked away from a concert in Seattle to the hospital in an ambulance. We then share a couple voicemails demonstrating how speaking in tongues works, after which we discuss racism against Asians. We pose a question to the scientific community that they have clearly never thought to consider, we discuss the recent impeachment proceedings, and then share our biebers involving courtesy and talking outside.

Direct download: 2019_10_01_0273.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 5:59pm PST

In this episode of DXP we begin by discussing Bieber and Lambos, after which we ponder whether there really is such a thing as the “science” of nutrition (mainly because we’re mad that we’re not thinner than we are). Jason shares some fresh frustration at his workplace and the people who frequent the place, which leads to a conversation about the difference between making judgments and judgmentalism (as in, does the cover actually reveal a lot about the book itself?). Biebers involve zippers and lotion.

Direct download: 2019_09_29_0272.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 6:48pm PST

Episode #271 of Drunk Ex-Pastors begins with a voicemail from a very inebriated caller pledging to pull his support from another popular podcast and giving it to us. We then address another listener’s comments about the charismatic movement and explore the nature of our own early faith, after which we spend some time reflecting on Bill Maher’s recent controversial statements in favor of fat-shaming. Biebers involve pushing buttons and careless maids.

Direct download: 2019_09_17_0271.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 6:34pm PST

We begin DXP #270 by celebrating our improved sound quality, after which Christian talks about his new diet. A voicemail launches a discussion about comedy and conservatism, and then we pivot to the issues of climate science and postmodernism. “Dick Move, God” makes its return, after which we debate whether children have the right to online privacy. After a few remarks about gun control we share our biebers, which involve pee and human resource departments.

Direct download: 2019_09_13_0270.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 7:06pm PST

In this episode of DXP we hear about an exciting new job opportunity for Christian, and then discuss a recent meme we shared but then deleted due to it being “controversial” (this leads into a discussion of controversial comedy in general). We answer a caller’s question about Jason’s late-night intimacy, and then discuss a mystery whose secrets we guess we’ll never know. We address another caller’s questions about psychedelics (which leads to a discussion about demons), after which we share our biebers.

Direct download: 2019_09_08_0269.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 7:36pm PST

In this episode of DXP Jason gives a brief update on his potential future as a restauranteur, and Christian shares some stories from his recent boating adventure (most of which center around the age-old question of how you’re supposed to poop in such cramped quarters). We debate whether lying about stuff makes it true, and then discuss the HBO show Euphoria. We take a call about Gen-Xers vs. Millennials, and then discuss the topic of death. Biebers involve PC culture and service charges.

Direct download: 2019_08_27_0268.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 9:45pm PST

In this episode of DXP we discuss what is perhaps the greatest Bible lesson ever given, after which we talk about the good-looking-ness of actors (or lack thereof). We tackle the issue of how not to notice hot women around your wife, and then discuss the new documentary about the Christian Right, The Family. We disagree about some recent comments by Bill Maher, and disagree again about whether religious kids are less compassionate than normal ones. We conclude with a bieber about wedding photographers.

Direct download: 2019_08_14_0267.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 11:23pm PST

In this episode of DXP we learn a little more about Christian’s “DNA,” and Jason shares a couple stories about valet life. We take a call from a listener with thoughts on whether Trump’s recent tweets are racist, and then discuss the mass shootings in El Paso and Dayton (or as Trump calls it, “Toledo”). We then chat with Bill Olien, one of our first patrons, about faith, music, and outreach to the poor and marginalized. Biebers involve running boards and backing that thang up.  

Direct download: 2019_08_07_0266.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 6:51pm PST

In this episode of DXP we talk a bit about the new HBO miniseries “Chernobyl,” which leads to a discussion about why Hollywood makes all foreign people British. We turn our attention to an old pic that Jason posted in which his father is the same age as we both are now, prompting a discussion of whether 40 really is the new 30. We talk about Reagan’s racism and whether Trump’s recent tweets are actually racist at all, and then discuss Jeffrey Epstein’s plans to jizz all over the world.

Direct download: 2019_08_04_0265.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 7:36pm PST

DXP #264 begins with some banter about new tech and NBC’s Parks & Rec (which features prominently throughout the episode). We discuss a new business opportunity; after which we answer a caller’s question about whether it’s weird that Hamilton was played by a person of color. We turn our attention to the so-called Transformed Wife and her lady-splaining to us what men really want in a woman. We conclude with biebers, which involve right-hand turns and online password requirements.

Direct download: 2019_07_24_0264.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 10:00pm PST

In this episode of DXP we debrief a bit about the wedding Christian recently attended in Texas, after which Jason teaches us how to speak Chinese (which is not racist). We discuss the return of Aziz Ansari, and then debate whether DNA is total bullshit. We respond to some pushback about whether of not we’re successful, and then take a call about sowing and reaping in the Bible. Biebers involve airplane armrests and Sprint’s customer service.   

Direct download: 2019_07_21_0263.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 10:39pm PST

In this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors we discuss the martyr complex of American evangelicals and seek to determine the REAL reason we hate them (hint: It has nothing to do with Jesus). We take some pushback from a caller about our take on female athletes’ pay, after which we consider becoming investigative journalists. We discuss the so-called gifts of the Spirit, and then display awe at the mystery that is “the sun.” We briefly talk about Jeffrey Epstein and “deepfakes,” and then close with biebers.  

Direct download: 2019_07_10_0262.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 10:00pm PST

In this episode of DXP we debrief about our recent Alaska cruise, and then congratulate the U.S. women’s national soccer team on their victory (which led to a discussion about their receiving less pay than men, as well as about the nature of capitalism in general). We talk briefly about a short-lived Twitter feud one of us got into, and then answer a listener’s questions about whether Christians are really cannibals and whether we think morality is objective. Biebers involve back-up cams and self-checkout.

Direct download: 2019_07_07_0261.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 10:00pm PST

In DXP #260 we debrief a bit about Jason’s time “in his cups” last week, after which we observe a scientific mystery regarding hair growth. We then delve into the theology behind speaking in tongues. (What is it? Why do Pentecostals do it? And are they really just cunning linguists?) We answer a caller’s question about parenting and losing your religion at the same time, and then embark on a new record for the amount of time spent talking about pig hearts. Biebers involve mortgage interest and last week’s bieber.

Direct download: 2019_06_27_0260.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 10:00pm PST

Writing a description for DXP #259 is a bit of a challenge since yours truly did a shot every 15 minutes the show went on. But as far as I can remember we talked about impeachment, answered some pushback about voting standards, and discussed whether the religious notion of eternity mitigates against the meaningfulness of life. We explain to non-former-evangelicals what things like the Great Tribulation and Mark of the Beast are. Biebers involve the challenges of walking and what is supposedly tolerable.

Direct download: 2019_06_19_0259.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 10:00pm PST

We begin DXP #258 by revisiting the natural disaster that our fervent and effectual prayers thankfully averted. We then introduce a new topic in our segment, “I Guess We’ll Never Know,” involving why the makers of spaghetti can’t even speak their own language. We launch a new segment which has us introducing and defending belief in something preposterous, after which we address the topic of assisted suicide and whether mental health is really a thing. Biebers involve empty threats and door handles.  

Direct download: 2019_06_14_0258.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 10:00pm PST

In DXP #257 we are put on blast for not knowing how to build a house (of which we alone are ignorant, apparently). We discuss the option of skipping to the front of the Judgment-Day line, and then address the tactics of the rabid opponents of Planned Parenthood. We get some feedback about our message from a mistress, and then do another “I Guess We’ll Never Know” segment. The topic of suicide comes up, and then we launch into biebers (which involve Chernobyl and cyclists).  

Direct download: 2019_06_07_0257.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 10:00pm PST

In DXP #256 we heed a request from a patron that one of us does a shot every 15 minutes throughout the duration of the show. We then put prayer to the test, coming before the Almighty in the aftermath or the devastating earthquake that rocked Los Angeles this past week. We discuss some recent documentaries, and then answer a caller’s question about religion and our children. In our DXP Confessions segment we hear from an actual mistress, and then get a sneak peek into a woman’s response to VR porn.  

Direct download: 2019_05_29_0256.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 8:57pm PST

DXP #255 begins with a voicemail about tornadoes, as well as one calling us out on all these teased interviews we never seem to follow up on. We answer a caller’s question about leaving the faith, after which we consider a Go Fund Me campaign for a certain stab-wound victim. We discuss other listeners’ questions about everything from Christian celebrities to hangovers and from living abroad to what Jason actually believes. Biebers involve newsfeeds and false time limits.

Direct download: 2019_05_24_0255.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 12:23am PST

In episode 254 of Drunk Ex-Pastors, after our usual combination of banter, non-sequiturs, and rabbit trails of distraction, we open the floor up to our patrons and other listeners by answering the questions they posed to us online. We discuss the various jobs we have had and which were our favorites, we talk about the best TV show theme songs from the ‘80s, what we’d do if we won the lottery, as well as many other topics. Biebers involve our eating habits and the removal of jewelry.

Direct download: 2019_05_14_0254.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 9:35pm PST

We begin DXP #253 with a discussion about hobbies and why they’re not all they’re cracked up to be. We get some unsolicited dog-training advice, discuss the time-saving benefits of profiling people in the service industry, and break down the best way to give away millions of dollars. We answer a caller’s question about our experiences of God’s existence, and then discuss a controversial scene from Game of Thrones involving rape and torture. Biebers involve Hollywood cut-aways and gas.

Direct download: 2019_05_10_0253.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 9:44pm PST

In episode #252 we hear a suggestion about distilling and branding our own liquor, after which we recount our past experiences regarding leaving our former church, Calvary Chapel. We discuss a couple recent Netflix documentaries about women we admire, and then address some charges of racism surrounding people’s responses to the Notre Dame fire. We respond to a caller’s comments about the God of Calvinism, and then hear another listener’s confession. Biebers involve wedding dates and campfires.                     

Direct download: 2019_05_03_0252.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 8:09pm PST

In episode #251 of Drunk Ex-Pastors we spend some time arguing over whether old movies suck or not, as well as over why people get excited about long battle scenes in TV and films. We then turn our attention to the difficulty of spiritual deconstruction done in public, and how responsible we should feel toward those who were members of our former congregations. We then share our biebers, which involve audiences at concerts and, you guessed it, certain types of cars.

Direct download: 2019_04_24_0251.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 9:10pm PST

In our sestercentennial episode of DXP we tease the audience about what it would take in order for us to start putting out a midweek show (it’s well within the real of possibility actually). We then engage a long-time fan’s input about having a minority president, after which we discuss a patron’s question about the value of history and what it has to teach us. We spend some time discussing another listener’s thoughts about the afterlife, and then share biebers involving hoods and credit card offers.                   

Direct download: 2019_04_21_0250.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 8:24pm PST

DXP #249 begins with the introduction of a new addition to the family. We hear from a caller asking for further thoughts on our own spiritual and political deconstruction, and from another who wants to know whether ignorance really was bliss. We discuss the merits of having a girl president (wink), and then launch a new segment titled DXP Confessions which allows our listeners to call in and unburden their souls (warning, penance may be assigned). Biebers involve self-sabotage and D-bagging.                  

Direct download: 2019_04_10_0249.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 10:00pm PST

In DXP #248 we briefly debate whether it’s OK to dislike the movie “Us” without also being racist, after which we discuss the black inventor of the lightbulb whom you’ve never heard of because white people always take credit for everything. We revisit the water bottle issue, and then answer a caller’s question about how our respective processes of deconstruction affected our friendship. We break down a well-meaning Christian’s lament over the New Zealand mosque attacks, and finish, as always, with biebers.                 

Direct download: 2019_04_03_0248.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 5:06pm PST

In episode #247 of Drunk Ex-Pastors we discuss the origin of various nicknames (as in, how the hell do you get “Peggy from “Margaret” or “Dick” from “Richard”?). We then turn our attention to the differences between Cardi B and Bill Cosby and whether it’s okay to drug people in order to just rob rather than rape them. We discuss the developments surrounding the Mueller report and then share our biebers (one involves whinging employees and the other focuses on drinking while riding a bike).                 

Direct download: 2019_03_30_0247.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 10:13pm PST

For some reason, episode #246 of Drunk Ex-Pastors includes a lengthy discussion about masturbation despite the topic appearing nowhere in our outline. We discuss innovation and the recent documentary, The Inventor, and then we answer a caller’s question about where our views currently stand on spiritual matters (I think it is fair to say that both of us have undergone a bit of evolution in this area). Biebers involve pizza parties and people who assume zero responsibility for their own choices.                

Direct download: 2019_03_24_0246.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 10:00pm PST

Remember those ‘80s VSEs (“Very Special Episodes”) where a show like Facts of Life or Diff’rent Strokes would delve into some serious, dark territory? The first half of DXP #245 is kind of like that. After discussing death and loss, we turn our attention in the second half to celebrity comeuppance, fair wage policy, and whether the history of America is really just the history of various forms of fundamentalism. Biebers involve stop signs and T-shirts.               

Direct download: 2019_03_13_0245.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 11:00pm PST

DXP #244 begins with some thoughts about HBO’s documentary, Leaving Neverland, which leads into a crazy story involving a certain casino and Ted Bundy. We hear back from a recent caller about the minimum wage, and then discuss how scared we should be of automation (things get a bit meta here). We get a bit of pushback about the whole “white Buddhists” thing, and then hear from another caller who has “come out” to his mom about his agnosticism. We end with a voicemail about, (you guessed it!) hell.              

Direct download: 2019_03_10_0244.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 10:09pm PST

We begin DXP #243 by switching our disparaging remarks about Steven Tyler to a different glamrocker, after which we conclude—we promise—our discussion about scientific materialism and the meaning of life (because such a mundane topic must be so boring for people). We touch briefly upon the Cohen hearing, as well as push back a bit against what we consider to be ridiculous and PC-driven views on race and culture (we surely offend just about everyone here). Biebers involve physical trainers and the Krauts.            

Direct download: 2019_02_27_0243.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 9:51pm PST

In DXP #242 we debrief a bit about the cruise we just took, after which we hear some pushback we got for being so dishonest (this leads into a discussion about media bias on the left and the right). We discuss a recent hotel-related documentary we watched, prompting a chat about the virtue of wealth. We then spend a fair bit of time fielding the objections we have heard about whether or not scientific materialism is “beautiful” (long-time listeners will appreciate the role-reversal in this discussion).            

Direct download: 2019_02_20_0242.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 11:00pm PST

In episode #241 of Drunk Ex-Pastors we talk a bit about Bruce Sanguin’s book, Dismantled, discussing the issue of psychedelics and spirituality (prompting an aside about whether Jason has ever really had any true childhood trauma). We take calls from listeners about healthcare and whether minimum wage laws are a good thing, and then turn to our biebers, which are admittedly incredibly “first world” (going on Caribbean cruises can be very challenging).           

Direct download: 2019_02_06_0241.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 10:00pm PST

In this episode of DXP we talk a bit about the various films nominated for Best Picture (one of us has committed to watch them all before the event, the other hasn’t heard of any of them. We’ll let you guess who’s who). We take a dive into the conservative psyche and discuss whether it’s true that there are crazy zealots “on both sides” (it’s not). Before turning to our biebers—which involve truancy and a certain social media platform—we debate whether life without any afterlife can truly be meaningful.          

Direct download: 2019_02_01_0240.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 10:00pm PST

Episode #239 of DXP begins with a caller’s lament over our relative happiness, after which we take another listener’s question about the degree (if any) to which we experience “white guilt.” We discuss the communal aspect of sports and whether they are a positive part of society or a mere distraction from what matters. Biebers involve doctors and games that supposedly showcase our vocabularies.         

Direct download: 2019_01_28_0239.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 8:51pm PST

Episode #238 of Drunk Ex-Pastors begins with a listener’s question about how we’d feel about being undertakers, which then devolves into a self-exploration concerning just how much blatant theft we would be comfortable with (turns out, quite a bit). We discuss Trump and porn a bit (as separate topics, thankfully), and then address the recent Covington Catholic student controversy, bringing a bit of nuance to the issue. Biebers involve taxes and the passage of time.         

Direct download: 2019_01_21_0238.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 1:51am PST

DXP #237 begins with a cruel attack on Christian and his obvious speech impediment (words are hard for some people!). We then discuss the recent Gillette ad targeting toxic masculinity, exploring issues like why it is so offensive for certain people to be told there’s room for improvement. We turn our attention to a documentary about social media influencers called The American Meme, discussing the pros and cons of the democratization and digitization of pretty much everything. Biebers involve pins and bad movie logic.        

Direct download: 2019_01_18_0237.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 10:10pm PST

In DXP #236 we begin with some banter and a shot, after which we turn our attention to the recently leaked audio from Louis CK’s new comedy act (which many have criticized for his supposed mocking of school shooting victims and non-binary people), exploring the role of comedy in our current cultural climate. We then discuss firebrand congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the various controversies surrounding her behavior and agenda. Biebers involve recipes and ice (the room-temp kind you wear).       

Direct download: 2019_01_13_0236.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 8:50pm PST

In this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors we spend some time shooting the breeze as usual, after which we address some of the pushback we received over last week's interview with Mark Gober, revisiting such topics as "Can atheists be good people?", "Is materialist science too limiting?", and "Which kinds of spoons are best for bending with our mind?" As is sometimes the case, the two of us disagreed somewhat, but thankfully no one resorted to mind-melding the other. Biebers involved autocorrect and tombstones.       

Direct download: 2019_01_04_0235.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 11:30pm PST

In this episode #234 of Drunk Ex-Pastors we are challenged by a caller to evaluate our own prejudices concerning people who live in apartments and drink grape soda, after which we chat with author Mark Gober about his new book, An End to Upside-Down Thinking. We explore topics like whether we are really nothing more than our physical, material selves, and what “paranormal” phenomena like ESP, remote viewing, and telepathy have to say about this issue. Biebers involve pumping and left hands.       

Direct download: 2018_12_28_0234.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 7:58pm PST

In this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors we chat with Cass Midgley, a former youth pastor and current host of the “Everyone’s Agnostic” podcast. We discuss issues such as the doctrine of eternal torment in the lake of fire and why such an idea might be a tad destructive (apparently being dangled over the yawning chasm of hell is not the healthiest feeling. Who knew?).      

Direct download: 2018_12_17_0233.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 11:47pm PST

In this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors we basically ditch our entire outline in order to address a couple listeners’ questions: What would our lives look like now if we had never left our former church (and do we feel regret over the decision at all?) Another caller leaves a voicemail simply to ask how we are doing on a personal level, to which we respond by getting all vulnerable or whatever. Biebers involve computer monitors and online news sites.     

Direct download: 2018_12_14_0232.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 8:35pm PST

In this episode of DXP we discuss a recent study whose findings show that men who suffer from issues with their hairlines and/or wieners are more likely to support Donald Trump. This leads to a discussion of toxic masculinity and Christian dominionism more generally. We weigh in on journalist Jamal Khashoggi’s murder and Trump’s non-response, and then move on to biebers involving check-out lines and second-guessing technology.    

Direct download: 2018_12_07_0231.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 10:10pm PST

This episode of DXP begins with a plea for one of our favorite listeners to recognize his own greatness. We then hear from someone who poses the question of whether people can be genuinely good people as well as supporters of Donald Trump (a true moral dilemma if there ever were one). We revisit drug legalization, and then launch into a discussion about John Chau’s death and about martyrdom in general (like, did those “savages” really need salvation in the first place?). Biebers involve apps and bagging.   

Direct download: 2018_11_30_0230.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 8:51pm PST

DXP #229 begins with perhaps the most empty threat ever (it comes from Canada, so), and we then consider a listener’s opinion that we are unfit for public office. We revisit drug legalization, as well as hear from a caller who will never again listen to us while at a drive-thru. We discuss the responsibilities, if any, social media platforms like Facebook have to stop hate speech, and then muse about whether we are white- or blue-collar people. Biebers involve fake “sales” and texting.   

Direct download: 2018_11_23_0229.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 9:41pm PST

DXP #228 begins with a voicemail from none other than “Hot Todd” himself, after which we respond to a caller’s question about whether having kids is really a good idea given how crap everything is these days. We address whether it is inconsistent to want stricter gun controls while also advocating for the decriminalization of all drugs. We mull over the prospect of running for public office (guess which one of us only wants the VP job?), after which we share our biebers about crosswalks and blue jeans.   

Direct download: 2018_11_12_0228.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 8:41pm PST

DXP #227 begins with a message for “Hot Todd,” after which we respond to a follow-up question about relationships and personal change. We then learn from President Trump that, as it turns out, Stephen Colbert really does respect him after all. We consider a warning from Fox News about leftist violence, and then turn our attention to the issue of whether the world is better or worse than it used to be. Biebers involve online forms and gas pumps.  

Direct download: 2018_11_05_0227.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 8:56pm PST

We begin episode #226 by debriefing about our recent DXP BBQ in SoCal in order to make those who couldn’t come super jealous. Christian is forced to clarify his problem with hard-shell tacos (is it time to switch to tostadas?), after which we address whether it is wise to begin a relationship with the intent of changing the other person. We then discuss what practical effect, if any, the knowledge that the world is about to end would have upon our lives. Biebers involve shower handles and photo captions.

Direct download: 2018_10_30_0226.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 9:35pm PST

In a special throwback episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors, we revisit one of our listeners’ favorite segments, “Dick Move, God.” Join us as we transport ourselves back into some of the Bible’s more obscure stories and discover just how effed up the ramifications of God’s treatment of his people actually were. With loving Saviors like this….

Direct download: 2018_10_28_0225.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 10:58pm PST

In this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors we are asked by a caller about our parenting strategies during this #MeToo moment, and we take the opportunity to springboard into some broader, relationship-type topics. We take another call about our views of the enneagram personality test and whether it’s just some Christian Meyers-Briggs kind of thing. We suggest actually taking the enneagram test and each divulging the other’s results on air (but we will probably forget). Biebers involve GPS and email lists.

Direct download: 2018_10_21_0224.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 1:58pm PST

In episode #223 of DXP we are asked by a caller about whether we are comfortable calling one another out on our annoying issues (which is silly, because we’re both totally normal, well-adjusted people). After discussing relationships a bit we are asked about how comfortable we are with discussing sexual assault with out daughters. We then turn our discussion to the issue of consciousness and the human brain, which leads into all kinds of deep mystical crap. Biebers involve salsa and Internet access.

Direct download: 2018_10_12_0223.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 8:06pm PST

DXP #222 begins with our first ever attempt to call someone back because their voicemail was so confusing (the conversation that ensued was just a tad awkward). We discuss whether it’s still worthwhile to send kids to college, and take another call from a listener who can teach the rest of you a thing or two about using your allotted voicemail time efficiently. We then lament the confirmation of Brett Kavanaugh, disagreeing slightly over just how nihilistic and hopeless we should let ourselves become.

Direct download: 2018_10_06_0222.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 10:00pm PST

DXP #221 begins with a call from our (presumably) only Trump-voting listener, after which we discuss the new Netflix series, The First. We hear from our very first patron, and then discuss how much money we would bargain our souls for (unsurprisingly, Jason’s is on sale for quite cheap). After the break we discuss the Kavanaugh nomination (but since this episode was recorded a week ago our remarks will be somewhat outdated since news travels so fast these days). But either way, the dude is super shady.

Direct download: 2018_09_22_0221.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 12:37am PST

DXP #220 begins with a solemn voicemail from one of our most beloved characters. We then find ourselves getting rebuked for ignoring a listener’s question last week and talking about something else instead (which we are wont to do). We discuss the issue of body shaming and whether it’s wrong when Trump is the target (we’re cool with it), after which we address another listener’s question about whether he is spiritual or religious. We end the show discussing Chris Mooney’s book “The Republican Brain.”

Direct download: 2018_09_20_0220.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 8:37pm PST

DXP #219 represents what happens when we don’t have a whole lot of topics to address and instead just shoot the shit for a couple hours. We begin the show with a voicemail from a real-life Trump voter, which leads to a discussion of the recent Manafort plea and a foray into the world of FoxNews. Jason tells a story about his new job, and we get some marketing tips from another listener. Biebers involve hotel feng shui and afterschool pick-up lines.

Direct download: 2018_09_16_0219.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 8:08pm PST

Episode #218 begins with a new and potentially hilarious job prospect for Jason, after which we take a voicemail about the process of changing one’s mind (is it instantaneous or a process? Are certain types of people more averse to change than others?). We discuss the controversy surrounding Nike’s new ad campaign, and then take another call about whether it is necessary to root our good deeds in some religion or another. Biebers involve mobile devices and driving habits.

Direct download: 2018_09_08_0218.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 10:37pm PST

DXP #217 opens with a voicemail from Dick Bush about a new job prospect. We then hear from another caller challenging our position on racist jokes and on whether Trump supporters are themselves on the racism spectrum. We take a question from a new patron and self-proclaimed “worst Texan ever” about the #MeToo movement, and then discuss a recent study about how most people attempt to date “out of their league” (also, men are super shallow apparently). Biebers involve spouse-sharing and parking garages.

Direct download: 2018_09_02_0217.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 7:42pm PST

Episode #216 of DXP begins with a voicemail for the one of us who “has a real job.” We then talk a bit about future president Michael Avenatti, after which we play a voicemail about the film BlacKkKlansman. We spend some time breaking down the Asia Argento scandal and discuss what its ramifications are, if any, for the MeToo movement. This leads to a discussion about sexual abuse and power more generally, as well as whether gender is relevant. Biebers involve airports and axes.

Direct download: 2018_08_25_0216.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 8:25pm PST

We begin episode #215 of DXP with a voicemail from the wife of one of our most famous listeners. We then discuss the issue of race, and the new film BlacKkKlansman in particular. We spend a little while engaging in potty talk (literally), and then devote the bulk of the episode discussing the recent abuse scandal in the Catholic Church. Biebers involve salt and horrible neighbors (what’s the deal, is it a race thing? A political thing? A socio-economic issue? Why are Jason’s neighbors so awful?).

Direct download: 2018_08_18_0215.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 11:52pm PST

In DXP #214 we take a call from a listener who foolishly expects Jason to reconcile something he said in one episode with something he said in another (we don’t like being accountable for stuff). We discuss whether people are truly able to change, and then take up the issue of the various bases of discrimination (as in, can a diner refuse to serve mixed-race couples? Men in MAGA hats?). After following a rabbit trail about the Bible and the gays we share our biebers, which involve boats and elevators.

Direct download: 2018_08_11_0214.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 7:42pm PST

In this episode of DXP we discuss the conservative mindset in general and Christian’s recent date with a Trump-supporter in particular, seeking to understand the never-ending layers of conspiracy theories and confirmation bias. We address the issue of social media scrutiny as it applies to director James Gunn, and then hear from atheist Christopher Hitchens on the dangers of Christianity (which sparks a sharp disagreement among us). Biebers involve unoriginal music and unhelpful encouragement.

Direct download: 2018_08_04_0213.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 10:49pm PST

In this special episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors we welcome into the studio none other than the legend himself, Dick Bush (played by longtime DXP listener Chad Toney). Before the interview (which airs in the second half of the show), Jason and Christian discuss the various strongly-worded letters they have written to establishments that angered them, as well as answer a listener’s question about Satan’s agenda. Biebers involve aggressive drivers and annoying technology.   

Direct download: 2018_07_26_0212.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 9:31pm PST

In this episode of DXP we are challenged by a listener about our dismissal Of “Space Force,” after which we spend some time discussing “Drag Queen Story Hour” (which is pretty much exactly what it sounds like), wondering aloud whether we’d feel comfortable having our kids read to by crossdressers. We hear from one of our favorite callers, after which Feeding Friendsy returns and tackles the thorny issue of free speech on Facebook. Biebers involve fruit and things we just shouldn’t have anymore.  

Direct download: 2018_07_19_0211.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 10:09pm PST

In this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors we begin by shooting the breeze as usual, after which we discuss the issue of localism (as in, is it okay to hate newcomers to our communities for being new, or do we have to hate them for some other reason?). We then turn our attention, again, to the issue of relationships, discussing whether it is truly possible to redeem our past heartbreaks rather than seeing ourselves as simply damaged beyond repair. Bieber involve pizza and granola bars.

Direct download: 2018_07_11_0210.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 10:47pm PST

We begin episode #209 with a voicemail about how to pronounce things from a listener who comes from, ironically enough, Texas. We then hear from another caller who questions our judgment regarding talking about Chloe’s sex life in a public forum (she’s fine with it), after which we revisit the topic of sex and relationships. We visit a Trump rally and debate the issue of making space great again, after which we close with biebers about soccer (no, this one is not Jason’s) and bogus social media platforms.  

Direct download: 2018_07_07_0209.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 8:30pm PST

Episode #208 of DXP begins with a surprising voicemail during which we receive some important legal information. We then get into the fourth-of-July spirit by discussing the TV show 24 and how Jack Bauer is basically a war criminal who deserved all the tragedy he got. We spend the bulk of the episode talking about sex, and specifically how much detail we want our kids to go into when discussing their private lives with us. Biebers involve women’s dating expectations and the way old people pronounce things.

Direct download: 2018_06_30_0208.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 10:22pm PST

This episode of DXP begins with a caller doing his best “I can’t quit you” impression from that one gay cowboy movie, after which Jason tells about his near-death experience and the revenge he hopes to exact upon the perpetrator. We discuss the FLILF’s recent wardrobe choice, revisit the Chris Hardwick situation, and then take caller’s question about “paper abortion” which, apparently, is a thing. Biebers involve car fires and sunshine.

Direct download: 2018_06_23_0207.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 9:47pm PST

Episode #206 of DXP begins with a couple rather odd voicemails, after which we discuss the departure from social media of Kelly Marie Tran after committing the crime of ruining everyone’s childhood. We then address the recent allegations of emotional and sexual abuse against Chris Hardwick by his former girlfriend, Chloe Dykstra. We take a call about whether the Rosanne- and NFL issues are at all similar, after which we hear Trump acting like a dictator. Biebers involve bacon and cheerios.  

Direct download: 2018_06_16_0206.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 9:22pm PST

We begin this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors by discussing rape for some reason. We spend some time addressing the death of Anthony Bourdain, as well as suicide more broadly, tackling issues like mental health, the pressure of celebrity status, and whether we should avoid our sense of emptiness or embrace it. We then talk a bit about the show Vikings (which has Jason puzzled beyond belief). Biebers involve convenient parking and men’s hairstyles.

Direct download: 2018_06_09_0205.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 10:13pm PST

This episode of DXP begins with a caller asking one of the most flattering questions a Christian could ever hope for. We then relay a story about texting and driving (which apparently is just fine under the right circumstances), after which we discuss Roseanne Barr, Samantha Bee, and Hollywood in general. Our biebers focus on unnecessarily confusing timelines and why being full-figured is a problem for Jason.

Direct download: 2018_06_02_0204.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 9:55pm PST

We begin DXP #203 with a harrowing tale involving mysterious sounds and eventual death, and then attempt to provide a free tutorial on how to leave a voicemail. We discuss the looming conservative boycott of Netflix over former President Blackenstein’s new deal with the network, and then delve into the frightening world of that one Mexican gang from Honduras that no one’s ever heard of. We address the NFL anthem response and then move on to Biebers involving stupid expressions and winning arguments.

Direct download: 2018_05_26_0203.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 9:45pm PST

In this episode of DXP we address Fox News’s Jeanine Pirro and her praise of Donald Trump’s moving of the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem, which leads to a discussion about Israel’s recent killing of 60 protesters in Gaza. We tackle the issue of liberal censorship (as in, should Spotify ban artists simply because they pee on their sex slaves?), and then talk about whether people should be fired for praying at work. Biebers involve podcast intros and garbage.

Direct download: 2018_05_20_0202.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 8:48pm PST

In this episode of DXP we get a congratulatory call from one of our favorite listeners whose question nearly dredges up some angry feelings. We reveal how irritable Jason is and how sensitive to this Christian is. We revisit our so-called fat-shaming from last episode, and take another call about why God only gets the credit for good things that happen without ever getting blamed for the bad. Biebers involve parking garages and chores. Also, if Gun & Roses ever needs to replace Axl, Jason is ready to go.

Direct download: 2018_05_12_0201.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 10:07pm PST

Can you believe we’ve done 200 of these things? In this episode we look back at how our lives have changed in the four years since we began this crazy project, as well as look ahead to determine just how long we can keep this thing going. We discuss whether comics get a pass for being politically incorrect, as well as break down a study that suggests that what you’re prejudiced against indicates how smart you are. But in all honesty, after doing an extra celebratory shot of Patron it’s all kind of a blur.

Direct download: 2018_05_05_0200.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 8:19pm PST

Episode #199 of Drunk Ex-Pastors explores the issue of why, when discussing Hollywood’s “liberal elite,” we are told that celebrities are idiots and their political opinions should be discounted, but then conservatives will cream themselves over Kanye West and Ted Nugent. We talk about the recent revelations concerning Sean Hannity, and end the show with biebers about spreadsheets and windshields.

Direct download: 2018_04_29_0199.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 9:11pm PST

Episode #198 of Drunk Ex-Pastors begins with the opening of a listener’s gift (one guess what it contains), after which we offer our final comments (we promise) about the whole rocks-in-the-classroom idea. It’s not our fault, we swear—You people keep bringing it up. We hear a voicemail from a listener who is in distress about the state of his soul, which occasions a lengthy therapy session about the issue of crucifying the god who hates us. Biebers involve waist size and getting shot.

Direct download: 2018_04_22_0198.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 8:39pm PST

DXP #197 delves into some heavy territory. After yet another caller challenges our proposal to arm schoolchildren with rocks we discuss death and whether we are personally and professionally ready for it. We “pre-brief” a bit about our upcoming interview with scholar Bart Ehrman, leading to a discussion about (if Jesus never rose from the dead) what exactly happened to precipitate the emergence and eventual empire-wide conquest of Christianity. Biebers involve email chains and the apocalypse.

Direct download: 2018_04_10_0197.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 10:00pm PST

Episode #196 of DXP begins with Christian being challenged about his Old-Testament solution to school shootings as well as his douchey vacuuming practices. We then turn our attention to ‘80s icon Molly Ringwald’s recent piece in the New Yorker in which she revisits her prior films in the light of the #MeToo movement (turns out they’re fine). We discuss NRA member Ted Nugent’s recent remarks about the Parkland students’ protests, and biebers involve food ratios and servers who need to speak up.

Direct download: 2018_04_07_0196.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 12:25am PST

On DXP #195 we debrief together about the state of Christian’s new heart (what is A-Fib anyway? Can’t be too serious, right?). We also discuss the issue of community, and whether it is possible to truly have one in a post-church setting (we’re pretty sure the Elks Club isn’t taking new members). Our “Feeding Friendsy” segment reveals that there’s such a thing as a Triple Strawman, and biebers involve Costco and stupid kids these days.

Direct download: 2018_03_31_0195.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 9:50pm PST

DXP returns this week, and turns out we have a crap-ton of voicemails stacked up. We take calls (without having screened them first) about topics like why we’re so cold all the time, whether people are psychopaths by nature or through nurture, and what divine comfort really looks like. Christian’s “Feeding Friendsy” segment returns, which causes Jason to discover that he “has no problem with Hitler.” Biebers involve Family Ties and public transport etiquette.

Direct download: 2018_03_24_0194.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 9:59pm PST

This week’s episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors will take you on a walk down Memory Lane as we revisit a handful of our earliest biebers. Tune in and be reminded how annoyed we get at everything from football to death, progress to banks. And anyone remember that we used to violate all kinds of copyright laws with our musical outros?

Direct download: 2018_03_18_0193.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 8:00pm PST

Episode #192 of Drunk Ex-Pastors begins with a voicemail from someone presuming to challenge Christian’s desire to go to prison, after which the conversation takes what Jason feels is a quite disturbing turn. We discuss Jackie Chan for some reason, and then take a call about the challenge of applying religion to child-raising. We quench the Holy Spirit by mocking certain types of miracles, and then get into a discussion about Hollywood, the Oscars, and race. Biebers involve Alexa and dead people.

Direct download: 2018_03_07_0192.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 5:52pm PST

Episode #191 of DXP begins with a solemn reminder of the death of an American icon, after which we give some advice concerning movie trailer protocol. We defend our position on comic book films, chat briefly about Christian’s obsession with guns, and then answer a question about whether God is a factor for us in overcoming difficulty and trauma. Biebers involve stacks of cash and whether Jason’s girlfriend should leave him for Ryan Gosling (she totally should).

Direct download: 2018_03_03_0191.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 11:52pm PST

Episode #190 of DXP begins with a call to prayer for Jesus’ servant, President Trump. We discuss the intrepid Florida legislature’s recent gun-control measures (oops, we mean porn-control measures), after which we dig deep into the minds of flat-earthers and other conspiracy theorists. Christian reinforces Jason’s biases against Black Panther, and biebers involve outdated tools and junk mail. Also, one of us is now either gay or merely attracted to men.

Direct download: 2018_02_24_0190.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 9:09pm PST

DXP #189 begins so mesmerizingly that your humble hosts forgot to say the Introduction (again). We discuss the fake Russia indictments that the fake news reports were handed down by the head of the fake investigation into Trump, after which we turn our attention to Mexico’s path to drug legalization. We weigh in on the recent school shooting in Florida, during which Jason shares his comprehensive gun-law plan that he thought of in the shower the other day. Biebers involve finger-food and pee.

Direct download: 2018_02_17_0189.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 9:34pm PST

Episode #188 of Drunk Ex-Pastors begins with our revisiting some recently-discussed topics—we play a voicemail about the punishing of criminals, as well as one about pornography. We also welcome into the studio Marta, a close friend whose own journey led her to pursue sobriety a few years ago, and what better way to learn about this than to ask her questions about it while we drink whiskey? Biebers involve what to do with your hands during urination, and why Jesus wants to kill Jason.

Direct download: 2018_02_08_0188.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 11:51am PST

DXP #187 starts with Christian making fun of Jason for being old and grumpy, after which we discuss the issue of tipping restaurant workers and whether the practice should be perpetuated. We get a bit of push-back on our comments about Aziz Ansari, leading to a discussion about how severely a society should over-correct its mistakes, and then we talk about whether the death penalty actually lets some criminals off too easily. Lastly, biebers include putting stuff in your mouth and too much squealing.

Direct download: 2018_02_01_0187.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 12:11am PST

#186 of DXP begins with a caller criticizing Jason, but we honestly have no idea what the guy is talking about. We discuss our favorite TV shows and films (and if you’re not willing to watch The Wire after this, then there just may be no helping you). We address the Aziz Ansari controversy, and spit some truth y’all bitches may not like no-how (damn, now we’re even talking like the people on The Wire!). After discussing the recent “Monkey Ad” by H&M we move to biebers, which involve showers and traffic.

Direct download: 2018_01_26_0186.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 10:00pm PST

DXP #185 begins with a quick look at Pornhub’s Hawaiian stats during and after the missile scare, after which we are encouraged by a listener to be bigger trolls. We discuss our recent attempts to land the Biebs as a guest, and then take a call about whether having a positive attitude matters. We talk about atheist Penn Gillette’s recent appearance on HBO’s Crashing, weigh in on the now-infamous “bad date” with Aziz Ansari, and biebers involve comics and stools.

Direct download: 2018_01_20_0185.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 9:24pm PST

DXP #184 is a special flashback episode where we walk down Memory Lane and replay our first 10 biebers (which, in case you forgot, refers to small things that annoy us greatly). Enjoy the nostalgia, and be thankful that our sound quality has improved and doesn't suck as much as this kid's music does. Spread the word!

Direct download: 2018_01_14_0184.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 9:13pm PST

DXP #183 includes everything from celebrity death predictions to a discussion of the role of God, if any, in Christian’s “miraculously” healed heart. We read an email we received from a faith-based marketing firm and respond on the air, and then discuss whether society cedes too much significance to media. We spend the bulk of the episode in a therapy session of sorts, evaluating the popular idea that what we put out into the Universe is bound to come back to us. Biebers involve trash and dishwashers.

Direct download: 2018_01_03_0183.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 4:41am PST

DXP #182 begins with our last ever plug for our upcoming cruise, after which Jason receives some very helpful advice from a Mexican about—what else?—nachos. We then discuss the male struggle with body dysmorphia and how hard it is for men to live up to society’s unrealistic physical standards. We talk about some recent films we have seen, and then launch a brand new segment titled “Dispatches from the Crazy Train.” Biebers involve software notifications and YouTube.

Direct download: 2017_12_30_0182.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 9:22pm PST

Our Christmas episode begins with the topic of burritos (obviously), after which we hear from 1/3 of our South African audience. We discuss The Last Jedi and the Star Wars franchise in general, reflecting on whether it is even possible to evaluate these films objectively. We turn our attention to the topic of death for a few moments, and then weigh in on Trump’s Middle East policy and what the Bible has to say about it (turns out the Bible thinks he’s a moron). Biebers involve car doors and IT people.

Direct download: 2017_12_23_0181.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 2:43am PST

Episode #180 of DXP begins, we think, with a voicemail about how cold it is in our basement studio, but to be honest we were so cold we were barely paying attention. We hear from another listener about Christian’s (allegedly) inebriated condition during our last episode, and another about the use of alcohol among Bible-thumpers. We briefly touch upon Net Neutrality, and Jason receives some pushback about one of his previous biebers. Speaking of which, they’re about shooting stuff and burritos.

Direct download: 2017_12_15_0180.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 10:00pm PST

We begin DXP #179 by covering our bases and reading the sexual assault waiver that everyone going on the cruise will be forced to sign, after which we clear things up for our Patrons and Jason gets some feedback on his new podcast. We discuss the resignation of Al Franken and whether VP Mike Pence has been onto something all along, and then take a call about the role of Christians in politics (#TheologyNerdAlert). Biebers follow, focusing on release dates and getting wet.

Direct download: 2017_12_07_0179.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 8:50pm PST

Episode #178 of DXP begins with an example of fearless evangelism, after which your humble hosts weigh in on yet another topic about which we know very little: ADHD and the use of prescription meds in general. We meet Sophia, who may be artificial but is not intelligent, and then briefly discuss the new GOP tax bill. Christian shares some penetrating analysis from 1993 about the southern Californian church landscape, and biebers touch upon 12-packs and pizza.

Direct download: 2017_12_02_0178.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 9:32pm PST